@silentC said in I don't know anybody this would fit.:
That’s a separate issue. If same sex marriage was legalised, then churches MIGHT be found to be in contravention of existing anti-discrimination laws if they refused to allow a SSM ceremony in their church. I don’t know if that is the case.
Isn’t that the crux? The operative word is MIGHT. Even @dog has used similar. Are we not at risk though, without those sureties of giving one set of people “equality” and taking away the right of others to believe differently?
The problem is that we are not terribly far removed, and our laws are not removed at all from a time when state and church were integral, so changes need to be addressed somewhat holistically. I cannot identify with the dogmatic (no pun intended) beliefs of some opposed to the concept, but I will defend their right to believe them (whatever their religion).
This is not a vote - it’s an opinion poll. There are no policies attached to it, no draft assurances of preservation of other persons rights, it’s all “might, probably, won’t” any assurances are meaningless as they aren’t policy. For me it’s not about same sex marriage, the concept of the poll is wrong - they have polls every day - they know what the population is thinking and they understand the debate, just get on with it, but for crying out loud do it right.
BTW, we have four gay couples in our immediate social circle, one is already married (In the US), one “might” and the other two won’t marry. I have no idea what that means in the context of the debate, other than it seems that not everyone is champing at the bit to tie the knot. I suspect the argument is more about “rights” than actually implementing them.
A bit like me whinging about not getting the pension really… no there’s a chance for the equality argument to really take off!
I’m curious - is everyone in the shed going to return a “vote”?
I’m not, for obvious reasons, although if I were perhaps @dog would be surprised at which box was ticked!