Ball tampering?

If that was true, the best thing he could have done as a leader was to burn those responsible publicly.
If he thinks he was doing those that were really responsible a big favour, he was very very wrong.

Hi long time lurker here… in all honesty , why do people insist on thinking that sports people are above reproach? that they lost by 300 odd runs makes me think “why bother if you are already gunna lose?”

G’day Zed, long time no see.

It does beg the question why they would bother.

They didn’t want to lose by 300 runs?

How are you Zeddie? All good I hope.

An update from James Sutherland

Dear Australian Cricket Fans,

I would like to provide you with a further update on the situation with the Australian Men’s Cricket Team. We appreciate the concern you have regarding this situation and we wanted to ensure that you received this news directly from us.

I have recently concluded a meeting with the Cricket Australia Board in which we discussed the findings to date of the investigation into the incident in Cape Town. The initial outcomes and actions are as follows:
Steve Smith, David Warner and Cameron Bancroft have been officially reported for breaching Cricket Australia’s Code of Conduct and will depart the squad immediately.
The preliminary findings have confirmed that prior knowledge of the incident in Cape Town was confined to only the three players reported.
Sanctions are expected to be announced within the next 24 hours.
Tim Paine has been endorsed as Captain of the Australian Men’s Test Team.
Matthew Renshaw, Glenn Maxwell and Joe Burns will fly to Johannesburg today to join the squad for the Fourth Test against South Africa.
In addition to sanctions for the individuals involved, Cricket Australia will initiate an independent review into the conduct and culture of our Australian men’s teams. The review will be an important step in rebuilding and restoring your pride in our Men’s teams.

Our teams have a responsibility as role models to ensure they uphold the values Australians expect, and to inspire us through the way they play.

Further, the health and welfare of our players and other staff is of the utmost priority. The Team Psychologist is with the team and providing support, while a number of players and staff have family and friends with them in South Africa.

The last few days have provided the strongest of indications of the passion Australians have for cricket and the Australian Men’s Team. Fans have provided a consistent voice regarding their expectations and we have been listening. We greatly value the feedback we receive from the Australian Cricket Family and will take the necessary steps to address your concerns.

James Sutherland
Chief Executive Officer - Cricket Australia

Not quite good enough I think. Let’s see where Boof is at the end of the week?

administrators

Couldn’t quite bring himself to say ‘cheat’.

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I would say an appropriate punishment. I would have been happy with a 6 month ban for Bancroft but 9 months is fair if a little harsh.

The enormity of Australian cricket’s ball-tampering scandal was emphasised on Wednesday when Smith and David Warner were suspended by Cricket Australia for 12 months and Cameron Bancroft for nine months.

The bans will prohibit them from playing for Australia or for their states during that period.
Smith was told he would not be able to captain Australia for at least two years after the ban expired, while Warner will never be permitted to lead the country under the sanctions.
CA chief executive James Sutherland met with the players in their hotel in the city’s Sandton district on Wednesday morning to tell them their penalties before they flew out of the country back to Australia.

https://www.theage.com.au/sport/cricket/smith-and-warner-receive-12-month-bans-bancroft-nine-months-20180328-p4z6s7.html

What do you reckon gave it away???

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@dog said in Ball tampering?:

I would say an appropriate punishment. I would have been happy with a 6 month ban for Bancroft but 9 months is fair if a little harsh.

Nine months is probably in reality no different to six - it gives him less than half of the next season to play club cricket (and they are being encouraged to do that) and press for his place again, yet is still sends a fairly serious message.

BUT I won’t come at that “junior” stuff - the guy is going on for 26 and a professional player. If he doesn’t have the guts to stand up for himself, then again I’m afraid he deserves more!

At least the well-advised Warner seems to be knuckling down to his fate, starting with a tweeted apology. The Smith press conference will not be a pretty thing, if he makes it through that he may just survive to play again.

Saw his statement on TV tonight, very obviously written by someone far more articulate than him as when he took questions later he was speaking a very different language.
Must have attended the Bob Hawke school of crying or the thought of losing all those sponsors upset him.

@bunyip said in Ball tampering?:

when he took questions later he was speaking a very different language.

I didn’t see that. Was he genuinely contrite (as per the script) or a bit bemused that he’d lost his job and his life for trying really hard? Just curious.

I thought the teary eyes was a bit overdone and then references to ‘me old man and me mum’ clearly indicated that the first part was from a script, was he really upset, I don’t know as I have seen some good performers apologise when they get caught.
Maybe I just too cynical after spending too many years in court but there just seemed to be something missing.

@bunyip said in Ball tampering?:

Maybe I just too cynical after spending too many years in court

Yeah, I reckon that’d be it. Didn’t seem anything ‘scripted’ about it to me.
Can you imagine what it would be like to be him? Talk about an epic fail. It doesn’t get any worse than pissing off a whole country.

To me, Smith looked a little like a startled deer in the headlights. Think he is still trying to figure out what all the vitriol is about, considering all international teams around the world most probably practice ball tampering activities, they are just better at hiding it than we were.

For what it is worth, I think the penalties are about right. Don’t care what other countries penalties have been in the past, the incidences were not really comparable to this one.

However, the line has now been drawn in the sand and anyone from anywhere who is caught in future will surely be judged against this, and if the response from their own parent body is anything less then they will hold themselves up as hypocrites and be open to ridicule all around the world.

The ICC’s response was as expected, they are nothing but a bunch of weak, spineless, corrupt men dominated by the IBCC

Marvelous what the horses’ mouth says, not that you would believe me if I told you, but it would go a long way to help you understand why Warner will never get near vice captain ever again, but Smith hasn’t had the same penalty. Told you something didn’t ring true even though Smith still deserves the penalty.

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@termite said in Ball tampering?:

Marvelous what the horses’ mouth says, not that you would believe me if I told you, but it would go a long way to help you understand why Warner will never get near vice captain ever again, but Smith hasn’t had the same penalty. Told you something didn’t ring true even though Smith still deserves the penalty.

I don’t think Warner will ever play for Australia again

Safe bet, you could include Shield too. :wink:

Well it would appear that quick, and incorrect, judgements have cost Australia a bloody good coach. Due to the shit thrown at his family about the current hooha, while he is away in SA, Boof has decided to call it quits after this last test, despite saying he would stay on prior to finding how his family had been treated. This is what happens when people mouth off while knowing fuck all about what has actually happened.

Yeah it only reinforces what I have always thought of Smith as captain. He was thrust into the job way too early.

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